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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Concerned,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kindly exclude me form the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Mail Address : bakibillah.sarker@btraccl.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>BR//<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Bakibillah Sarker<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nog-bounces@bdnog.org [mailto:nog-bounces@bdnog.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Md. Mahbubul Alam Reyad<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 24, 2013 12:43 PM<br><b>To:</b> fakrul@bdhub.com; nog@bdnog.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bdNOG] IX and Local Peering<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Pappu Bhai<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks for concerning on the local content enriching and to change to subject.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I think we need to focus on the followings:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>To fix out the current issues (ODF scope, Available Gig-ports, Flexible Prefix announcement, security mechanism in IX peer etc.) in BDIX so that the non-connected ISP/BWA/Telco/Others get interested to connect.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>To workout for NIX development. (don’t know whether the license are issued yet or not)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>To increase awareness among the Banks, Corporate house, SOHO, individuals to keep their web/mail/applications contents locally. Because I believe now in Bangladesh there are some standard data centers / ISPs who can ensure power, space, internet, content security. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sincerely Yours<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Md. Mahbubul Alam Reyad<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Assistant Manager<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>CORE-IP Network || Technology<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cell: +880 1976672281 || Skype: new_reyad<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.qubee.com.bd">www.qubee.com.bd</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>T +88 02 8812113 || F +88 02 8812115<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: nog-bounces@bdnog.org [mailto:nog-bounces@bdnog.org] On Behalf Of Fakrul Alam<br>Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:32 PM<br>To: nog@bdnog.org<br>Subject: [bdNOG] IX and Local Peering<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes, Hasib Bhai; it's also possible. Regarding NIX; well no comments :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>By the way I have changed the Subject as the topic changed to something else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>---<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Pappu<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On 11/23/13, 2:19 PM, Mohibul Hasib Mahmud wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Pappu Bhai,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I know currently BDIX not providing hosting space. It is my proposal <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> that if some content mutually benefited to all can we put them in the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> BDIX depending on consensus among the BDIX members.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> IX for IIG also good thing because by that we could also save foreign <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> currency.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I was just wondering if there is policy in place why NIX is not happening.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> What are the road blocks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Hasib<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Fakrul Alam <<a href="mailto:fakrul@bdhub.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>fakrul@bdhub.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> Dear Hasib Bhai,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> I think we are missing one point...."hosting content in BDIX". As far <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> as I know...BDIX won't give you hosting/collocation service; it only <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> help you to do the local peering. It's ISP / Hosting provider who <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> bring out the content and facilitates it's to IX.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> Regarding "connectivity between IIG" is pretty messy :-). Connecting <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> 30+ IIG?? Think we need to consider IX for IIG also :-) As per IIG Guideline:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> 9.07: For domestic internet traffic, all ISPs and BWAs will be <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> connected with Nationla Internet Exchanges(s) (NIX), which shall <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> operate on a peering basis. IIG shall also be connected to NIX if so <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> directed by the Commission as and when needed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> 9.08: IIGs shall have interconnection among themselves. PoPs of <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> different IIGs shall have interconnection among themselves.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> So there is no legal issue; only awareness. Correct me if I am wrong.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> --<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> Pappu<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> On 11/23/13, 1:43 PM, Mohibul Hasib Mahmud wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> I am agree with Simon Bhai. I am using lots of issues with BDIX <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> specially since I am taking full BGP routing table from Internet, I <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> am facing lot<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> of<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> issues connecting other peers in the BDIX. Some of the issues I have <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> already discussed with Sumon Bhai. May be Simon Bhai also can remember.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> I also agree with Pappu Bhai and I have no disagreements. I would <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> like to add few things.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> Regarding point 2 I think we need to raise awareness also need to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> understand why they do not want to connect to BDIX. Then I think we <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> can find out a plan.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> Regarding point 3 my comment is if somebody wants to host in google <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> let them do it. Later may be we can ask google to put a server at BDIX.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> Regarding point 3 content issue. It will not solve overnight. We <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> need to support whatever initiative is currently available. Things <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> like we could host Khan Academy Bangla lessons in the BDIX. So that <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> other content providers will be benefited.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> Besides these points I would like to raise another issue. We need <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> connectivity between IIGs. I think this is the first thing. I don't <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> know the legal issues but if there is any than we need to take <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> initiative to make regulator understand the issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> Hasib<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Simon Sohel Baroi / IIG-ITC /<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> Sr.Manager /<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>> 01678618243 / <<a href="mailto:simon.baroi@fiberathome.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>simon.baroi@fiberathome.net</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Dear Pappu Vai,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Some very important point you haven mentioned.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> One main issue comes is the IX. As per our discussion there are so <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> many routing level issue in the IX. Even from F@H, we couldn't <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> connect with them, due to the hassle we have to take to manage the prefixes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> I want to give a proposal. Can we sit next week at your office, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> with the people of BDIX to solve the routing issue. I will try to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> bring SUMON<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> vai,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> as he has a huge contribution for this and from the planning stage <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> he<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> was<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> with BDIX.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Lets sit and resolve the issue. In Phase-2 we will sit for the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Chaching issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> - with regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> SIMON<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> *P.S : a small room with 20 people can sit is enough with a board.*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Fakrul Alam <<a href="mailto:fakrul@bdhub.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>fakrul@bdhub.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> Dear Simon Bhai / Hasib Bhai<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> No doubt about local peering. Putting GGC/Akamai in IX is bigger <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> part but don't you think still we are missing few important issues:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> 1. Only one site (<a href="http://www.prothom-alo.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>www.prothom-alo.com</span></a>) is hosted in BD among the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> top<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> 50<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> sites in Bangladesh (ranked by Alexa).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> 2. AFAIK only one Telco is connected in BDIX. Not sure about the WiMAX.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> 3. ISP them self hosting there mail server in Google Cloud rather <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> than maintaining it by themselves.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> 4. Very little/no initiatives to increase local content.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> 5. ISP still can't feel the difference between Transit & Peering. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> They are asking for IX connectivity to there IIG (Transit <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> Provider) and lots of packages are going on in market. I think you understand the point.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> For GGC/Akamai or other CDN we have to meet certain criteria and <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> there are dependencies. But there are something which is within <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> our control but still missing. Finger cross...and hope for the best.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> -Pappu<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> On 11/23/13, 12:30 PM, Simon Sohel Baroi / IIG-ITC / Sr.Manager /<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> 01678618243 / wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> Really agreed with Pappu vai's comment. Finanacial thing is the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> biggest<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> Roman vai, Peering through ITC is not possible. As Bharti and <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> Tata forcefully bundle the price with IP transit. You can connect <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> with the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> CDN<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> operator ot IX directly. But they will charge you IPLC and IP <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> transit together. So, peering become more costly solution.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> Regarding Global cache. I talked with Akamai. Their cach is very <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> big<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> and<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> running in 2 places in Bangladesh. But they want to connect them <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> with<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> BDIX.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> Simon.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 23, 2013, Mohibul Hasib Mahmud wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> My personal observation is we should work for more local peering <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> and global cache locally in the form of CDN ( global CDN like <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> Akamai) to improve end user experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> Thanks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> Hasib<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> BRACNet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Nurul Islam Roman <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>> <nurul@apnic.net<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> <javascript:_e({},<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> 'cvml', 'nurul@apnic.net');><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> What is something else :).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> Is it more peering? Does it worth peering with IPLC? Or should <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> we advocate more local peering and bring global cache locally? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> I have<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> got<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> positive comments in BD though regarding peering with IPLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> (specially<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> end<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> user experience) and also price perspective. What is the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> community<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> thought<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> on this? BIG FAT vs Good quality? Thanks Simon for bringing <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> this. :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> Roman<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/13 4:52 AM, "Fakrul Alam" <fakrul@bdhub.com<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> <javascript:_e({},<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> 'cvml', 'fakrul@bdhub.com');>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> This been tricky. There are two aspects; financial & technical.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> Technically it's been great to have big names like PCCW, HGC, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> HKIX, Telstra, NTT, AT&T; but you need to find out whether <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> it's been<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> feasible<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> financially when:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> 1. You have 30++ IIG in the market.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> 2. BSCCL half circuit price is roughly 80% of your total b/w <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> cost<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> for<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> SMW4.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> 3. 10% revenue share with BTRC.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> 4. Competitive market where price win in all aspect.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> 5. ITC holding IIG license (I know there will be lot of <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> arguments)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> -Pappu<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> On 11/22/13, 9:17 PM, Simon Sohel Baroi / IIG-ITC / Sr.Manager <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> /<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> 01678618243 / wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> I think so many topic is going on. I want to add another one. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> This<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> is<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> really important as all of us want to have a good internet in <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> Bangladesh.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> Before the ITC Connectivity comes to Bangladesh. We found <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> MANGO<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> and<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> BTCL<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> connected with different Tire-1 IP Transit Providers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> But the number were limited to TIS, Bharti, Singtel, TM. As <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> price<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> was<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> really high, then people couldn't tell anything about the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> transit provider.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> I found MANGO sometimes added some new name in their list. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> But<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> BTCL<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> didn't,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> as expected. Now the new player, BSCCL is connected only with TIS.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> When ITC comes, the scenario become worst. The internet cost<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> reduced<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> 82%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> and all of us get connected with TATA and Bharti.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> As the big borthers wont allow the ITC provider to go with <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> IPLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> and<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> go<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> other providers. The price is binded with their IP Transit. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> Some<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> kind<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> of<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> IPLC kinle IPTransit FREE.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> All of us Bharti and TATA - with big big pipe. When a client <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> ping<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> from<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> the<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> laptop, they have to pass atleast one of them.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> *Don't you think, we are missing some good things ? ( Big <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> names<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> like<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> PCCW,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> HGC, HKIX, Telstra, NTT, AT&T etc ) *<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> *Don't you think, we are giving client a very bad internet<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> experience<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> ?*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> *OR*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> *Getting Google within 70ms is more than enough for the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> client.*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think - BIG FAT Pipe with INDIA - or - GOOD <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> Transit Providers<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> - or - Something else. ?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> - with regards<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> SIMON<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> *( Apu da and Amin vai, please don't get me wrong as I have <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> used<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> MANGO's<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> name without your permission )*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a> <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'nog@bdnog.org');> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a> <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'nog@bdnog.org');> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a> <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'nog@bdnog.org');> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>> <a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> <a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>> <a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> --<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> *Simon Sohel Baroi *| Sr. Manager, Technology | PICO | ITC - IIG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> |<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Cell : +880-1678-618243, +880-181-7022207 | Desk : <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> +880-9666776677<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Ext-1031 |<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Mail : <a href="mailto:simon.baroi@pico.net.bd"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>simon.baroi@pico.net.bd</span></a> <<a href="mailto:simon.baroi@fiberathome.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>simon.baroi@fiberathome.net</span></a>> | <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> Skype<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> :<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> tx.fttx |<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> * Reduce. Reuse. Recycle. Respect. It's the little things that <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> really<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> can<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> make a difference. *<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> <a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>> <a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> <a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>> <a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>nog mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:nog@bdnog.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>nog@bdnog.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://mailman.bdnog.org/mailman/listinfo/nog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>