[bdNOG] Cisco VPN Router

Sat Nov 16 05:20:54 BDT 2013

Upssssss. You are right Barua "not threats" but threads. Apology. I should
disable autocorrect in my mail client. :)

-Roman

On 16/11/13 4:20 AM, "Aniruddha Barua" <aniruddha.barua at colbd.com> wrote:

>Roman bhai,
>
>Threads. It would be threads. Not threats.;-)
>
>Regards,
>
>ANIRUDDHA BARUA
>Email: aniruddha.barua at colbd.com, cto at colbd.com
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>
>
>On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Nurul Islam <nurul at apnic.net> wrote:
>
>> I think Momen's question is about the overlay VPN model (5/10 years ago)
>> where CPE router create IPSec tunnel (customer data security purpose)
>>and
>> SP POP router need to create another tunnel (GRE/IPSec) to isolate their
>> routing prefixes. Because several customer or SP infrastructure might
>>use
>> the same private address range. I think this overlay VPN model is
>>replaced
>> with MPLS L3 VPN where SP do not need to create any GRE/IPSec tunnel to
>> isolate their routing prefix. SP now simply create VRF on the POP router
>> and individual customer prefixes are isolated by VPNv4 address family
>>etc
>> etc.
>> 
>> By asking "VRF instead of GRE on PE" if you mean MPLS L3/L2 VPN, then
>>yes
>> it is available in Dhaka. At least Pseudo-wire for sure. Is VPLS also
>> available in Bangladesh?
>> 
>> What is the required CPE hardware that is also discussed on other reply.
>> 
>> Thanks to bdNOG community. Keep posting more threats and let everyone
>> participate. We need active people to run our NOG.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Roman     
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/11/13 2:14 AM, "Md. Khairul Alam" <khairulbd at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think the the technology using by the SP is not the main concern of
>>>the
>>> banks. Banks should have own policy to secure the data transmission
>>> between HO and branches. As a customer I must want the maximum
>>> availability of the link from the SP and choose the security technology
>>> in my routers.
>>> 
>>> For small branches most are using 1900 series with K9 license I guess
>>>and
>>> 2900 series for larger bandwidth requirement.
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much bdNOG for giving us the opportunity to share.
>>> 
>>> BR//Khairul
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Fri, 15/11/13, Aniruddha Barua <aniruddha.barua at colbd.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [bdNOG] Cisco VPN Router
>>> To: "NOG list, bdNOG" <nog at bdnog.org>
>>> Received: Friday, 15 November, 2013, 6:33 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Mr. Momen,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I believe you are asking the question considering the
>>> entire architecture, not just from the customer (Bank) or
>>> the provider (SP) point of view. If a bank wants to connect
>>> their branch routers in Layer 2 over SP network, the SP has
>>> to give them either GRE based tunnels (Mikrotik's EoIP
>>> or PPTP-Bridge etc., are common technics) or MPLS Layer 2
>>> (EoMPLS, VPLS etc.). If a bank wants to connect the branch
>>> routers in Layer 3 over SP network, the SP can give them
>>> anything from simple routing (Static or Dynamic) to plain
>>> VRF (i.e. VRF Lite) to MPLS Layer 3 to even dedicated fiber
>>> (this is too much though!!).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To maintain information security and confidentiality,
>>> regardless of what the SP is providing in its
>>> infrastructure, the bank has to encrypt-decrypt (mostly with
>>> IPSec) its traffic in between its routers, which will pass
>>> through either the Layer 2 tunnels or the Layer 3 routed
>>> paths provided by the SP.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My question to all is, should banks demand a specific
>>> technology like VRF or MPLS or any other from the SP as long
>>> as their requirements are met perfectly well by the SP using
>>> its current technologies?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> bdNOG mailing list is on the jazz today. Regards to
>>> all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ANIRUDDHA BARUA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Email: aniruddha.barua at colbd.com, cto at colbd.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cell: +880.1713.111222
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Web: http://www.colbd.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------- Original Message
>>> -----------
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Abdul Momen <abdulmomen918 at gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: ariful.islam at totalofftec.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cc: nog-bounces at bdnog.org, "nog at bdnog.org"
>>> <nog at bdnog.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:22:33 +1000
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [bdNOG] Cisco VPN Router
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks everyone.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I believe it is mostly ipsec (CPE
>>> router) inside GRE(PE router)? Is it possible to get VRF
>>> instead of GRE on PE
>>> router.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks & regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Momen     
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Arif @
>>> TOTALOFFTEC 
>>> <ariful.islam at totalofftec.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have fortinet wifi router.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -arif- +8801678005123
>>> . Apologies kept short sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>> - Airtel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Nurul Islam <nurul at apnic.net>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sender: nog-bounces at bdnog.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 06:17:25
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: fakrul at dhakacom.com<fakrul at dhakacom.com>;
>>> nog at bdnog.org<nog at bdnog.org>;
>>> Abdul Momen<abdulmomen918 at gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [bdNOG] Cisco VPN Router
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Few more on the [UTF-8?]listÅ .MikroTik, Fortigate, What
>>> model? what 
>>> else?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And obviously Cisco. (For the elite class I suppose. :).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Roman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 15/11/13 3:42 PM, "Fakrul Alam" <fakrul at dhakacom.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Dear Mr Momen,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ya, it's mainly 800 series with K9 bundle. I know
>>> few banks who use
>>> 1900
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> series in metropolitan branches where there is higher
>>> b/w & pps
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> requirements.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Fakrul Alam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/15/13, 6:29 AM, Abdul Momen wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Dear bdnog people,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> I have a quick question. What are the commonly used
>>> VPN router used
>>> in
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> the
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> bank brunches in Dhaka. I guess CISCO831-K9 still
>>> used in some 
>>> places.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Correct? What are other cost effective
>>> alternatives.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Momen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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